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Title: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on August 30, 2010, 05:56:11 pm
It is true to say that a lot of early Dr Who was marred by poor production values, cheap sets and episodes getting taped over. I wonder what it would be like to take some of those early stories and remake them with a modern twist. I wonder, how good would The Web of Fear look with a bit of script editing, Matt Smith as the Doc, the Mill's effects and Murray Gold's brilliant music? Its just a thought and alternatively you might be tempted to argue that we have the best young crop of British writers that this proud nation has ever seen and that we should not look backwards. I serve only to open the debate...


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: The Doc on August 30, 2010, 07:36:40 pm
Some of the classic stories are the best imo. Though the only ones I would like to see remade (and that is even at a push) would be the lost serials.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on August 31, 2010, 11:49:54 pm
I think that is actually how my thoughts on this first started. I would love to see Power of the Daleks and Evil of the Daleks again (were they both written by David Whittaker?)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Aneurin on October 22, 2010, 10:02:08 am
OMG I would love to see some of the old stories remade. Especially some of the lost ones. I havent seen a lot of classic series, but there is something about the lost episodes that makes me want to watch them more than others. Probably because I know I cant


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Peri-Peri on October 22, 2010, 10:38:13 am
Some of the classic stories are the best imo. Though the only ones I would like to see remade (and that is even at a push) would be the lost serials.

Yes, I quite agree. While seeing how the classics would translate to a modern audience would be great, I think remaking existing serials would seem disrespectful somehow. On the flipside, I think it would be quite respectful and a nice nod to the classics if one of the lost serials were to be remade. Perhaps thats just my twisted logic though


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: thefifthdoctor on October 22, 2010, 06:01:31 pm
I like how they've adapted some of the novels for the TV series, that'll do me.

Still holding out hope for some kind of multi-Doc story though, even if they do it in a Zagreus kind of way.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: BeeSC on October 22, 2010, 06:40:45 pm
I feel like it wouldn't be right. If they did remake some of them with Matt. Somehow the whole series would be out of sync. But that's just my opinion.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 07:01:42 pm
I feel like it wouldn't be right. If they did remake some of them with Matt. Somehow the whole series would be out of sync. But that's just my opinion.

To be honest it is a bit of an ill formed idea of mine based on discussions I had in the pub with friends. I am not entirely sure how I would feel either. I suppose it feeds into the canon discussion as well - this would seriously screw with canon (and for that reason alone I find myself warming to the idea).

I also wonder how it would work if some form of CGI magicfulness was used (in a Trouble with Tribbles stylee) to utilise episodes of lost stories. Like I say, I am not convinced myself - but it was partly the success of the Big Finish production of Shada and partly watching Never Say Never Again which got me thinking if there was any way to revive the work of the brilliant writers whose stories are seemingly lost forever.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: BeeSC on October 22, 2010, 07:26:00 pm
I feel like it wouldn't be right. If they did remake some of them with Matt. Somehow the whole series would be out of sync. But that's just my opinion.

To be honest it is a bit of an ill formed idea of mine based on discussions I had in the pub with friends. I am not entirely sure how I would feel either. I suppose it feeds into the canon discussion as well - this would seriously screw with canon (and for that reason alone I find myself warming to the idea).

I also wonder how it would work if some form of CGI magicfulness was used (in a Trouble with Tribbles stylee) to utilise episodes of lost stories. Like I say, I am not convinced myself - but it was partly the success of the Big Finish production of Shada and partly watching Never Say Never Again which got me thinking if there was any way to revive the work of the brilliant writers whose stories are seemingly lost forever.
I see where your coming from and yeah new effects would be good in the old series. Renewing them and whatnot, giving them a facelift. It would be interesting how they would go about that. If they wanted to do something like that.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 08:28:27 pm

I see where your coming from and yeah new effects would be good in the old series. Renewing them and whatnot, giving them a facelift. It would be interesting how they would go about that. If they wanted to do something like that.

It might be an utterly pointless exercise (hence my choice of title for the topic) but I just wonder if an episode like 'Trouble with Tribbles' might be successful in Who? [I'm sure most know but Trouble with Tribbles is an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine which involved Sisko et al going back to Kirk's Enterprise - please feel free to abuse me for stating the obvious lol]


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: poprockgeek on October 22, 2010, 09:38:02 pm

I see where your coming from and yeah new effects would be good in the old series. Renewing them and whatnot, giving them a facelift. It would be interesting how they would go about that. If they wanted to do something like that.

It might be an utterly pointless exercise (hence my choice of title for the topic) but I just wonder if an episode like 'Trouble with Tribbles' might be successful in Who? [I'm sure most know but Trouble with Tribbles is an episode of Star Trek Deep Space Nine which involved Sisko et al going back to Kirk's Enterprise - please feel free to abuse me for stating the obvious lol]

Trials and Tribble-ations was the DS9 ep, Trouble with Tribbles was the Original Series episode - now abuse me for correcting you (sorry I used to be a teacher!!!)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 09:40:16 pm

Trials and Tribble-ations was the DS9 ep, Trouble with Tribbles was the Original Series episode - now abuse me for correcting you (sorry I used to be a teacher!!!)

Absolutely no abuse at all forthcoming - I should be smited for such a school boy error :)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: The Doc on October 22, 2010, 09:43:22 pm
Im just going to pull up a chair and baske in the geek :P


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 09:46:58 pm
Im just going to pull up a chair and baske in the geek :P

Hey, these things matter! I feel slightly ashamed but Poprockgeek dealt with it with her usual good grace and charm :)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: poprockgeek on October 22, 2010, 09:52:45 pm
Im just going to pull up a chair and baske in the geek :P

Hey, these things matter! I feel slightly ashamed but Poprockgeek dealt with it with her usual good grace and charm :)

Glad you took it that way - it's one of my annoying habits. I try not to do it too often but some things have to be done!!!  :)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: The Doc on October 22, 2010, 09:58:14 pm
There are hundreds of things I am that geeky over, though Trek isnt one of them. It was nice to be the mocker for a change :P All in good jest though :D


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: poprockgeek on October 22, 2010, 10:11:16 pm
There are hundreds of things I am that geeky over, though Trek isnt one of them. It was nice to be the mocker for a change :P All in good jest though :D

I don't mind I'm used to it - part & parcel of being a geek!!!  :D


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 10:15:37 pm
There are hundreds of things I am that geeky over, though Trek isnt one of them. It was nice to be the mocker for a change :P All in good jest though :D

I don't mind I'm used to it - part & parcel of being a geek!!!  :D

Exactly - us geeks are made of strong stuff ;) I do genuinely wonder though how a Trials and Tribble-ations episode would work with MS & (perhaps) a Jon Pertwee episode (I think it needs to be colour one though perhaps an inventive writer could make a b/w episode work - in which case bring on the Troughton classics)


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: The Doc on October 22, 2010, 10:18:00 pm
What is this episode you speak of? Do you have a general plot outline so I can try and make sense of all this? :D


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: Vampyros Adric on October 22, 2010, 10:48:30 pm
What is this episode you speak of? Do you have a general plot outline so I can try and make sense of all this? :D

I was thinking, for example, that the Doctor travels back to 1960s London - and due to some wibbly wobbly timey wimey TARDIS malfunction the Doctor crosses his own time line and arrives to witness the Great intelligence take over london at the same time that Doc 2 is trying to help the army defeat the Yeti. Unbeknownst to Doc 2 there is another alien force trying to assist the great intelligence and Doc 11 must help defeat it.

This is taken off the top of my head in 2 mins so I am sure a capable writer given a few months could come up with something much better. But instead of an orthodox multi-doctor story for the 50th anniversary - why not try some clever CGI magic to weave the generations together?


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: mel42 on October 23, 2010, 03:24:03 am
I think the best way of remaking the missing stories is like what they did with "The Invasion" DVD, using animation to represent the actors and sets while using the original soundtrack and voices. That way viewers get to hear the original actors while perhaps upgrading the sets more cost-effectively than having to re-build everything.


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: BeeSC on October 23, 2010, 03:48:15 am
I think the best way of remaking the missing stories is like what they did with "The Invasion" DVD, using animation to represent the actors and sets while using the original soundtrack and voices. That way viewers get to hear the original actors while perhaps upgrading the sets more cost-effectively than having to re-build everything.

This would be a great way!


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: mel42 on October 23, 2010, 04:01:13 am
I think the best way of remaking the missing stories is like what they did with "The Invasion" DVD, using animation to represent the actors and sets while using the original soundtrack and voices. That way viewers get to hear the original actors while perhaps upgrading the sets more cost-effectively than having to re-build everything.

This would be a great way!

It is a good presentation since all the original audio still exists, so they can put the surviving live action episodes along with animation where the video doesn't exist.  If they animated the missing episodes people would be able to see the visuals, maybe even better than the sets were to begin with due to the low budgets.  I don't know if the BBC are planning more animated DVDs but I did send a reply card to them saying that they should continue this project!


Title: Re: Repainting the Cistine Chapel
Post by: The Doc on October 23, 2010, 10:58:44 am
What is this episode you speak of? Do you have a general plot outline so I can try and make sense of all this? :D

I was thinking, for example, that the Doctor travels back to 1960s London - and due to some wibbly wobbly timey wimey TARDIS malfunction the Doctor crosses his own time line and arrives to witness the Great intelligence take over london at the same time that Doc 2 is trying to help the army defeat the Yeti. Unbeknownst to Doc 2 there is another alien force trying to assist the great intelligence and Doc 11 must help defeat it.

This is taken off the top of my head in 2 mins so I am sure a capable writer given a few months could come up with something much better. But instead of an orthodox multi-doctor story for the 50th anniversary - why not try some clever CGI magic to weave the generations together?

Oh I get you now. I like this idea. It would be such a shame if they marked this anniversary without the presence of all the Doctors