The Doctor In The TARDIS

Travels In Time And Space => Series 1 => Topic started by: Tardis-Console on September 23, 2010, 09:25:43 pm



Title: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Tardis-Console on September 23, 2010, 09:25:43 pm
Not sure if this is in the right section, so sorry if it isnt

So anyways, last Friday my series one box set turned up and I have been making my way through it. I was told to look out for this episode and I have just finished it.

OH MY GOD

I loved it. I was in floods of tears for so much of it. Such a touching story and brilliantly written. Was good to see what happens when they go back into their own lives as apposed to just helping others. Rose's mum was superb once again and played it brilliantly at the open and close, showing a much more subdued version of the character we have seen so far. I am leaving the last few episodes for a marathon run at the weekend, but I just had to come and say how superb I thought this story was. I was going to add a photo to this thread from the episode but couldnt work out how :P

So is this a popular episode amongst fandom? I know im 5 years late striking up this conversation but I just loved it


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: poprockgeek on September 23, 2010, 10:05:12 pm
It wasn't in the right section as it's New Who not Classic - but that's fine as you can see we are able to move it.

I too like this ep, but then I like most eps of DW that I've seen (there are a few that I like a little less than others but that's going to be the case with whatever you watch I guess).



Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on September 23, 2010, 10:09:05 pm
I do like this Ep and there are lots of bits I love....but its not one of my favourites.... by a mile


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Vampyros Adric on September 23, 2010, 10:09:18 pm
I absolutely loved Father's Day :) and I know just what it is like when you find a great story and you want to share. Thats why I like this place - doesn't matter if its 5 mins or 5 years - when you find a story that works its the best feeling in the world.

It was written by Paul Cornell who also wrote Human Nature/Family of Blood and if Moff decides that Hollywood is beckoning and leaves Dr Who, then you couldn't go far wrong with Mr Cornell and his wonderful, subtle but brilliant brand of storytelling to helm the show.

I'm not sure if its a popular show in fandom - but I like it :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: The Doc on September 23, 2010, 10:22:24 pm
Oh I love FD too. Such a great episode and very touching. Not a massive fan of Pete on the whole though


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: DAK on September 23, 2010, 10:37:37 pm
I also loved this episode!  One of my favorites from Series 1. 


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Mind_Robber on September 24, 2010, 02:05:02 pm
I'm with PopRockGeek on this one. I like pretty much all the DW episodes I've seen (some more than others). But FD was and is definitely one of my favourites


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Sandiwich11 on September 24, 2010, 02:12:39 pm
I really wish that Simon Pegg had been free to play Pete as it was originally intended :(  Due to the age difference between him and Billie I can see that there would have been problems including him in the later episodes, but then again the show would have been better without so many domestic settings imo anyway :P


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: The Doc on September 24, 2010, 07:05:08 pm
I have a bit of a L/H thing with Simon Pegg. Im glad he didnt have a bigger role in the show than he did, but didnt overly love the Pete we got either


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Sandiwich11 on September 24, 2010, 11:58:36 pm
I wasn't happy with the role he ended up with in the end, I think that's the only character of his I haven't enjoyed :(


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 12:29:19 am
Love Father's Day.  Very poignant.  And understated, which sums up Nine's tenure.

(PS.  Still rate his regeneration over Ten's...)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: The Doc on September 25, 2010, 12:31:50 am
Comparing the two really puts it in perspective:

Before I go, I just want to tell you: you were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And do you know what? So was I!

Vs

I dont wanna go

:P

On the Simon Pegg topic, I hated The Editor


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 12:40:21 am
Comparing the two really puts it in perspective:

Before I go, I just want to tell you: you were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And do you know what? So was I!

Vs

I dont wanna go

:P

Exactly, going out on a high, no self-pity but rejoicing in who he was. 


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Dame Roger on September 25, 2010, 12:54:22 am
Comparing the two really puts it in perspective:

Before I go, I just want to tell you: you were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And do you know what? So was I!

Vs

I dont wanna go

:P

Exactly, going out on a high, no self-pity but rejoicing in who he was. 

Agree completely. The ninth Doctor may only have been around briefly, but he had the perfect exit. Wheras with the tenth Doctor I ended up getting pretty sick of the sight of him and really wishing he'd hurry up and regenerate by the end because of all the sentimentality and self-pity. Shame really, since I'd really liked him up until the last few episodes.

Anyway, Fathers Day. I liked it. Not the best episode of the series but still very good. I'm not normally a fan of the habit in NuWho of continually bringing in the companion's home life, but this episode did it really well. So well, in fact, that they shamelessly ripped off the idea in an episode of Sarah Jane Adventures!


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on September 25, 2010, 01:08:04 am
Agree completely. The ninth Doctor may only have been around briefly, but he had the perfect exit. Wheras with the tenth Doctor I ended up getting pretty sick of the sight of him and really wishing he'd hurry up and regenerate by the end because of all the sentimentality and self-pity. Shame really, since I'd really liked him up until the last few episodes.

Shouldve ended at Journeys End....

Anyway, on topic. It is a truely great Ep and sticks to the whole Paradox thing!! Unlike THE MOFF! "Dont touch the baby!"

*Rose touches(not really) the baby and reapers cause destruction and death*

*Amy touches Amelia* *sigh, nothing happens* ¬¬


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 01:30:41 am
Agree completely. The ninth Doctor may only have been around briefly, but he had the perfect exit. Wheras with the tenth Doctor I ended up getting pretty sick of the sight of him and really wishing he'd hurry up and regenerate by the end because of all the sentimentality and self-pity. Shame really, since I'd really liked him up until the last few episodes.

Shouldve ended at Journeys End....

Anyway, on topic. It is a truely great Ep and sticks to the whole Paradox thing!! Unlike THE MOFF! "Dont touch the baby!"

*Rose touches(not really) the baby and reapers cause destruction and death*

*Amy touches Amelia* *sigh, nothing happens* ¬¬

Yeah, well, Amelia and Amy were from two different time streams in The Big Bang.  To quote the Doctor, "You're just not keeping up" :p


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 01:37:51 am
So, in case you *aren;t* keeping up, Amy had grown up from the Amelia who *had* met the Doctor but the Amelia in The Big Bang *hadn't* met the Doctor, ergo, two different versions of the same person.

Rose, in Father's Day, touched the baby version of herself from the same time line. :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on September 25, 2010, 02:00:15 am
*Plft*

I kept up, I always keep up, just The Moff is a bit flexible around Paradoxes....


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on September 25, 2010, 02:03:10 am
Oh and if you want to be pernickity, Rose didnt really because the saving of her Father was basically creating a Parallel Universe that she, The Doc, Pete and the Reapers were part of.... so in effect, Rose couldnt have grown up and gone back in time to touch Rose (baby) because you know, The Doc got munched and the TARDIS vanished.... so yeah... that was a different Rose

(Im tired, if you want a coherent response Ill give you one 2moz)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 10:00:07 am
The Big Bang was played out in a universe where all bets were off and paradoxes could happen.  The universe was collapsing in on itself.  They were at the eye of the storm, remember.

Still not keeping up....:p


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 10:07:10 am
Oh and if you want to be pernickity, Rose didnt really because the saving of her Father was basically creating a Parallel Universe that she, The Doc, Pete and the Reapers were part of.... so in effect, Rose couldnt have grown up and gone back in time to touch Rose (baby) because you know, The Doc got munched and the TARDIS vanished.... so yeah... that was a different Rose

(Im tired, if you want a coherent response Ill give you one 2moz)

Not the same.  And, if you remember (I know you have trouble :p), the Doctor and the TARDIS came back at the end so baby Rose *would* grow up and meet the Doctor and travel in the TARDIS and go back in time to stop her father from dying.  Same Rose, not the Amy/Amelia situation at all.  If the events of The Big Bang had shifted on 14 years you would have an Amy who had travelled with the Doctor meeting an Amy who *hadn't* met the Doctor.

But, if you think that The Moff is the only one who has 'played' with time paradoxes in Who's history, I suggest you read the article on same in last month's DWM. :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Roranicus on September 25, 2010, 10:23:55 am
I liked fathers day, and it was one of the better episodes of the first series, but it wasnt the best by any measure. The finale two parter or Dalek get that accolade for sure


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Mind_Robber on September 25, 2010, 10:42:16 am
Oh and if you want to be pernickity, Rose didnt really because the saving of her Father was basically creating a Parallel Universe that she, The Doc, Pete and the Reapers were part of.... so in effect, Rose couldnt have grown up and gone back in time to touch Rose (baby) because you know, The Doc got munched and the TARDIS vanished.... so yeah... that was a different Rose

(Im tired, if you want a coherent response Ill give you one 2moz)

Not the same.  And, if you remember (I know you have trouble :p), the Doctor and the TARDIS came back at the end so baby Rose *would* grow up and meet the Doctor and travel in the TARDIS and go back in time to stop her father from dying.  Same Rose, not the Amy/Amelia situation at all.  If the events of The Big Bang had shifted on 14 years you would have an Amy who had travelled with the Doctor meeting an Amy who *hadn't* met the Doctor.

But, if you think that The Moff is the only one who has 'played' with time paradoxes in Who's history, I suggest you read the article on same in last month's DWM. :)
Is that article on the DWM Website? If so, could you provide a link, please?


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Tardis-Console on September 25, 2010, 11:38:56 am
I knew I would post this in the wrong place!! Oh well, lol

Seems most people are fond of this one. I plan on finishing series 1 today so if I am equally as impressed there may be more threads coming


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: DAK on September 25, 2010, 04:40:58 pm
Tardis-Console, what do you think of the Ninth Doctor?


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Whistler on September 25, 2010, 06:47:26 pm
Oh and if you want to be pernickity, Rose didnt really because the saving of her Father was basically creating a Parallel Universe that she, The Doc, Pete and the Reapers were part of.... so in effect, Rose couldnt have grown up and gone back in time to touch Rose (baby) because you know, The Doc got munched and the TARDIS vanished.... so yeah... that was a different Rose

(Im tired, if you want a coherent response Ill give you one 2moz)

Not the same.  And, if you remember (I know you have trouble :p), the Doctor and the TARDIS came back at the end so baby Rose *would* grow up and meet the Doctor and travel in the TARDIS and go back in time to stop her father from dying.  Same Rose, not the Amy/Amelia situation at all.  If the events of The Big Bang had shifted on 14 years you would have an Amy who had travelled with the Doctor meeting an Amy who *hadn't* met the Doctor.

But, if you think that The Moff is the only one who has 'played' with time paradoxes in Who's history, I suggest you read the article on same in last month's DWM. :)
Is that article on the DWM Website? If so, could you provide a link, please?

Not sure there *is* a website, only a Facebook page.  I certainly couldn't find anything while googling it.  I'm sure if you unt hard enough, someone will have put up a transcript of it somewhere if you can't get your hands on a back issue. :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on September 26, 2010, 12:59:43 am
I know Moff isn't the only one, but he is recently the main one *glares*

Both plots altered the events of the Past though, you can't argue that.... (Waits for you to argue it)

I don't buy every DWM, they are so expensive! So I doubt I have that one...


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Tardis-Console on October 05, 2010, 09:37:17 am
Tardis-Console, what do you think of the Ninth Doctor?

I loved him. I thought he was absolutely brilliant. Angry at times. More than was needed. But I kinda got it, and understood why. I loved how he softened more as the series progressed and it is such a shame he only did the one series. Not as good as Matt Smith for me, but from what I have seen so far of Tennant, I prefer Eccleston to him


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: awkward91 on October 06, 2010, 05:01:12 pm
Father's Day is indeed awesome, one of the episodes that made me love Doctor Who! I wish alternate world Pete had never happened though... Paul Cornell is fantastic, really hope he writes some more for DW in the future.


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: sleekituk on October 06, 2010, 10:40:16 pm
Tardis-Console, what do you think of the Ninth Doctor?

I loved him. I thought he was absolutely brilliant. Angry at times. More than was needed. But I kinda got it, and understood why. I loved how he softened more as the series progressed and it is such a shame he only did the one series. Not as good as Matt Smith for me, but from what I have seen so far of Tennant, I prefer Eccleston to him

I felt that way at the stage of watching you are at. Then a couple of episodes in s2 and a couple of 10/10 (imo) episodes in s3 changed the way I would feel about the show forever.  I founf *my* adult Doctor, as Tom Baker had been my child Doctor, I look forwards to watching you watch so to speak :D


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: chrissymarieb on October 07, 2010, 12:26:47 pm
The Big Bang was played out in a universe where all bets were off and paradoxes could happen.  The universe was collapsing in on itself.  They were at the eye of the storm, remember.

Still not keeping up....:p

That was my understanding as well.  That the universe had collapsed and was pretty much only the Earth and moon and since the universe was so much smaller, you could do stuff you couldn't do before.

As for Father's Day - I enjoyed it.  I liked that you got to see 9 being so mean at times and then softening by the end of it.


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Peri-Peri on July 06, 2011, 08:38:04 pm
I have added a poll to this thread because we are collecting data in order to rank stories. Please could you take a minute and rate this story? :)

You do not need to give a reason for your vote, though obviously feel free to do so as it is a good way of bringing discussion back to older threads :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Saber on July 06, 2011, 10:44:31 pm
4/5 from me for this one. I will readily admit that it gets me every time :'(. I don't particularly love the character of Pete, which is probably my main drawback here, but I thought the story was wonderful and a great way of bringing elements of the classic series into play, such as messing with time streams and the BLE for example. It was just a good old fashioned danger story borne out of something that was very humble that any viewer could identify with. Who wouldn't want to try to save a loved one if they could. It had a good backbone to it.

I wish I'd given it a 5 now


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Roranicus on July 07, 2011, 10:37:36 am
Father's Day gets a four from me. For pretty much exactly what Saber said. I think he was spot on :)


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Tardis-Console on July 07, 2011, 07:16:05 pm
Full marks from me for this story. I absolutely love it to bits. It makes me smile, it makes me cry and it makes me care more for the characters. The Reapers were a bit naff but they are made up for with Jackies 80's hair ;D

I could honestly watch this over and over


Title: Re: Father's Day
Post by: Vampyros Adric on July 07, 2011, 08:53:27 pm
I gave this a four - it was a displaced gene away from greatness but I think there was something I just didn't quite like about it. We're in the realms of personal taste here so I can't quite put my finger on it!


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Oh-Wise-One on July 08, 2011, 02:45:26 pm
I gave this one a four. I always really liked that it was an emotional character driven story and the scifi elements sort of played second fiddle to that. The character of Pete I didn't find all that likeable, but I think that is more a feeling left over from his S2 appearances rather than how he actually is in this story


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Exterminate on July 08, 2011, 10:49:41 pm
I went with a four for this story. For much of the same reasons that people have mentioned above


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Twisted-Sister on July 09, 2011, 10:14:58 pm
This one gets a 4


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: 2cajuman2 on July 11, 2011, 12:36:45 am
 >:(

Anyway, I'm struggling with this one... I'm not sure whether I think it gets a 3, at the same time as knowing it does, I just prefer it less to some others I have given 3 to... Hmm


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Aneurin on July 11, 2011, 12:49:25 pm
This one gets a four from me. Pete Tyler and the Reapers are what loses it a point. Other than that I think it's a pretty wonderful story


Title: Re: Poll: Father's Day
Post by: Davros on February 06, 2012, 12:29:41 am
I loved this one. While 9 and Rose's fight seemed a little too 'stereotypical domestic immature' the rest of it was a brilliant emotional character ride.

What's funny is that the first time I saw this it made no impression on me. What was I thinking?