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Title: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: The Doc on January 13, 2013, 11:59:56 am
If you know anything random or interesting about this story then note it down in here and share it with the rest of the forum :)




Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Peri-Peri on January 13, 2013, 05:12:11 pm
This story contains a racial slur, heard during the recital of eenie meenie miny moe. It was dubbed over for the audio release.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Nyki on January 14, 2013, 12:39:36 am
Cyril was so obviously based on Billy Bunter that the BBC had to issue a denial that there was any connection between the characters.  This was broadcast during the closing credits of episode 4.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Exterminate on January 14, 2013, 11:13:58 am
The final script we see on screen is the third that was written and only the characters remain from the initial script, with the plot being overhauled completely.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Aneurin on January 14, 2013, 04:38:25 pm
Cyril was so obviously based on Billy Bunter that the BBC had to issue a denial that there was any connection between the characters.  This was broadcast during the closing credits of episode 4.

The final script we see on screen is the third that was written and only the characters remain from the initial script, with the plot being overhauled completely.

Another interesting fact that ties these two together is that one of those rewrites is because the story had already been accused of stealing ideas and characters once before from a Gerald Savory play.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Saber on January 15, 2013, 08:33:26 pm
Michael Gough who played the Toymaker was at the time married to Anneke Wills who went on to play Polly a few weeks later.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Roranicus on January 16, 2013, 11:36:07 am
Cyril was so obviously based on Billy Bunter that the BBC had to issue a denial that there was any connection between the characters.  This was broadcast during the closing credits of episode 4.

I was just saying in another thread I have no idea who he is. The name sounds familiar but I couldn't point him out in a lineup. The only time I was aware of the show getting into trouble because of this was with the candy guy in the 80s


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Nyki on January 16, 2013, 05:53:45 pm
Billy Bunter was from the Greyfriars school stories by Frank Richards, which were published from about the 20s or 30s onwards.  He wasn't originally the main character, just a comic relief figure, but he gradually took over the stories.  He was pretty much exactly as shown (his catchphrase was "Yaroo") except that he didn't actually try to kill people  8)  There was a TV version during the 60s, though I'm not sure it was on at exactly the same time as this story, so he was a very familiar figure.

Frank Richards wrote under a lot of different names (that wasn't his real one) and at one time was in the Guinness Book of Records as having written more published words than any other author on record.  I don't know if that still stands.


Title: Re: Random Facts About.... The Celestial Toymaker
Post by: Mr Chinn on January 16, 2013, 11:59:54 pm
Billy Bunter was from the Greyfriars school stories by Frank Richards, which were published from about the 20s or 30s onwards.  He wasn't originally the main character, just a comic relief figure, but he gradually took over the stories.  He was pretty much exactly as shown (his catchphrase was "Yaroo") except that he didn't actually try to kill people  8)  There was a TV version during the 60s, though I'm not sure it was on at exactly the same time as this story, so he was a very familiar figure.

Frank Richards wrote under a lot of different names (that wasn't his real one) and at one time was in the Guinness Book of Records as having written more published words than any other author on record.  I don't know if that still stands.

How they ever got away with it is beyond me. Cyril even shouts 'yaroo' in the episode. It's so blatently Billy Bunter