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Travels In Time And Space / The Greatest Show In The Galaxy / Re: Gallifreyan Language
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on: March 07, 2012, 05:56:09 am
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Haha, I don't think that would help. Part of my speculative ideas was to use the tiny circles (if you look at BBC concept art there are lots of tiny circles just floating around) as a way to indicate where the "main center circle" was. Maybe certain patterns would indicate where it was. I was thinking of using straight lines to indicate prepositions/conjunctions.
My problem is that I'm trying to make the language but stick true to the BBC designs. Of course I might just use up all their design ideas just making the grammar work out, then I'd have no more room to make up words...
I've got no idea about Italian. Native English speaker learning French (just a year so far) and mainly German.
More simplified? You mean the 22.5 verb thing? Well I wanted a way to indicate verb tense without having to add a bunch of subtle tiny symbol markers to indicate. I just wanted to indicate by physical location in relation to other objects. That's what's special about the language- it's meanings/grammar are all based off of their spatial relationships to others, not the actual meanings of the words (maybe that's why conjunctions and preps are a nightmare).
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Travels In Time And Space / The Greatest Show In The Galaxy / Re: Gallifreyan Language
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on: March 07, 2012, 04:02:18 am
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Sorry but I don't think I have them anymore- they got thrown out in the trash. The basic premise was to have adverbs and adjectives inside the circle of the noun they were describing. The verb-circle would intersect the subject (noun circle) of the sentence halfway through the verb-circle's width.
The verb's placement determined its tense. Of the English language's 16 tenses. The top of the circle would be considered the starting point (90 degrees) and move 22.5 degrees clockwise or counterclockwise to change tense. (there would be a chart for which angle meant which tense). All nouns intersecting the main subject-circle word to its immediate left (180 degrees) would be an indirect object, and things directly above the subject-circle (90 degrees) would be the direct object.
The problem is how to demonstrate conjunctions and prepositions and which object applies to which. To know if the 'Man throws the ball to him' or if 'Man throws him to the ball'. I also didn't want the 'clusters' to be limited to what a normal English sentence could express. I wanted more and more circles to branch outward from the main subject-circle and go on forever, so you could describe entire scenes and paragraphs worth of information in one 'cluster'. However the issue of having that many circles interferes with the concept of indirect objects being to the left (180) and direct objects being above(90).
Example: You've got a main circle. To its left is a generic indirect object. above the main circle is a direct object. Say you want to give the direct object an indirect object of its own. But now the original main circle's indirect object seems to have its own direct object (the real direct object's indirect object). It would just get too confusing and grid-like.
I'm sorry I'm expressing this all by word. It must be confusing. I suggest drawing what I'm saying.
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Travels In Time And Space / The Greatest Show In The Galaxy / Re: Gallifreyan Language
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on: March 06, 2012, 04:04:25 am
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I had some sketches for basic grammar structures set up, but once I hit the conjunctions and prepositions I got stuck. Mine was based off of "clusters" of circles (because they don't like up in lines or anything) and the position of the circles in relation to each other was going to give meaning, but then I realized certain circles might "look" related to others when they weren't. Which is why prepositions and conjunctions became a nightmare.
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