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In all previous seasons of Doctor Who (since 2005) there has been a season long story/arc woven into the fabric/dialogue of the other stories and having a major impact in respect of the finale. Usually these have been one or two repeated words dropped into the different scripts and are very often portrayed as light hearted bits of filler;
Season One;
Bad Wolf
Season Two;
Torchwood
Season Three;
Saxon
Season Four;
Planets disappearing
Season Five;
The Pandorica...
It is the purpose of this thread to try and use our collective, hive mind to see if we can pull together some of the clues from the stories that we see on the screen in season 6 to see where (a) the cliffhanger is heading and (b) to see where season 6 & 7 combined are heading. Is there a Bad Wolf lurking in the pages of Moffat's scripts for us to find. We are fans. But we are not unobservant. Let us use this thread to pull together the information given to us and see if we can't spot the perils that await our friends in the TARDIS.....
There are no rules per se for this thread, all I would advise is that we keep the information coming as much as we can. Nothing is too stupid nor too inconsequential (who would have thought the Lost Moon of Poosch would be so significant in season 4). So let us combine our biological and technological distinctiveness in a borg-like fashion to take on the Moff's story-telling
Allonsy.......
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I'm moving this into the spoiler section so you can all get theorising. It's been hidden from view for a few weeks in a section currently under construction, but feel free to post away
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I've said it loads of times already, but I really think that the arc this year will have something to do with the classic series. There seems to be a lot of references popping up throughout the episodes.
If not that then I don't know. I will probably have more of a better guess once the show is airing and things are clearer. Could always be something to do with the Cybermen, they seem to be getting a lot of airtime this year
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I would have said it has to be
something
to do with the Cybermen too - though quite what I have no idea.
With The Silence/River/ Amy/Rory/Doctor arcs still to be resolved it's difficult to see how things will pan out to be honest
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Slightly stealing The Docs point from another thread, they seem to be spending a lot of time lost in maze like places in this series, or just outright trapped in buildings. A recurring theme possibly.
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Every series there is a sotry arc to it. Story arcs are simply little hints and references to the ending of the series. For example, the past story arcs were:
S1: Bad Wolf
S2: Torchwood
S3: Saxon
S4: Bad Wolf/Missing Planets
S5: The Cracks
S6:
?? Look Behind You?
For instance, in S2 torchwood was mensioned frequently and only appeared in the last episode.
Now... I reckon' that the story arc for Series 6 will be 'Look Behind You' or 'Spaceman'.
The two recently released teasers made me think this:
1. The first one showed a little girl telling a President to 'Look Behind Them'. He says there is nothing there, but it is revealed that there is a strange Grey like alien standing there. She also told the man that the 'Spaceman' told her the number for the Presidents secret line.
2. The 'Spaceman' appears and walks in space, going to the door to the Tardis with the Doctor standing there. BUT, in the reflection of the Spacemans helmet, you can see the wierd alien in the first teaser clip. Could this be refering to 'Look behind you'?
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Spaceman:
This is just a typical, spaceman. You know, suit, helmet, backpack, ect. What I find interesting about this guy is that the way they are presented. For example, when the little girl on the phone says 'the spaceman told me', there is a scary noise made. I reckon' this person is important. The same spaceman is shown in the trailer, proforming the same motion as they did in the second teaser trailer. In the second teaser, it looks like the spaceman is trying to touch the Doctor.
Creature:
This monster looks like one of the 'Greys' that were commonly shown during the 20th century in America. It looks evil, and has a somewhat smile on its face. It appears behind the President in the first teaser, and is referred to by the little girl, 'We see them all the time, but you have to look behind you'.
Basically, I think that the creature behind the President will make Cameo appearences throughout the episodes, like the cracks, but more hidden. I think that the creature would appear in reflections and so on. We can already see this in the second teaser trailer, (There are two versions of the trailer, but one is slightly different). In the one that is different, the creature appears in a reflection of the spacemans helmet.
Or, (Or maybe additionally), the Spaceman will appear, trying to 'Touch' the main characters? Why? I reckon' it is trying to make them turn around. I also believe that the spaceman is actually an ally to the main characters, making them need to turn around, to face the creature.
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Hi at fortehlulz - we already have a thread for discussing the S6 arc so I've merged your thread with the existing one. Hopefully your post & thoughts will get lots of people posting their ideas
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Interesting first post fortehlulz.
I'm not sure how significant either the
grey
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spacesuit
is going to be to an overall story arc but I do like the idea of the
Look behind you
recurring. It has sinister undertones and I can see that being woven into other story lines/episodes.
Especially Gaimans
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I've heard that the greys are the Silents. I don't know if that is true though. As for the spacesuit I think it will just be in the first story and probably have no significance beyond that. Look behind you would be a good arc. They have it on one of the promo pictures so its a good assumption for sure.
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The were in the trailer weren't they? I just assumed they were part of Mark's ep
Tbh, I am more creeped by this one than any of his others.... I hate that he has touched on that fear of something being right behind but not when we see it or that it taps in to our subconcious and we won't turn around...
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I'm sure I remember something about the 'greys' being The Silents too. If they are though I will be disappointed because as everyone keeps pointing out they do look very similar to The Ood
Unless of course they are wearing masks or just projecting an image. Perhaps the real Silents are what is behind you and never seen. At least by the naked eye
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I have an interesting slant on the Silents but I'm not sure if anyone has picked up on this or not. The girl repeatedly told the President to "look behind you" but still could not see the alien. River also says that "we are occupied". Perhaps this means that either a perception filter or some sort of Body Snatcher moment is afoot. Trying to work that into the arc though so I'll be back on that one
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Well - someone has to expand on this post, cause I'm just doing it spur of the mo. But there has been a lot of impersonating...
1 The Eleventh Hour - Prisoner Zero impersonated people
2 The Beast Below - Liz impersonated someone else, Some smilers were half people, the beast below was seen in a different light
3 Victory of the Daleks - The daleks impersonated aid. Bracewell impersonated a human
4 & 5 The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone - The angels impersonated statues (goes without saying)
6 The Vampires of Venice - Impersonated humans
7 Amy's Choice - The 2 worlds were being impersonated
8 & 9 The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood - ? Peace was impersonated ?
10 Vincent and the Doctor - The creature couldn't be seen...
11 The Lodger - The "TARDIS" was impersonating the top of the house, impersonating a human, The Doc was impersonating a human too
12 & 13 The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang - River impersonated Cleo, Autons as Romans, TARDIS a sun...
Like I say, just a quick fire off of ideas to show that line of thought, even if it wasn't what you meant
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River Song.
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Quote from: 2cajuman2 on March 31, 2011, 06:35:15 pm
Well - someone has to expand on this post, cause I'm just doing it spur of the mo. But there has been a lot of impersonating...
1 The Eleventh Hour - Prisoner Zero impersonated people
2 The Beast Below - Liz impersonated someone else, Some smilers were half people, the beast below was seen in a different light
3 Victory of the Daleks - The daleks impersonated aid. Bracewell impersonated a human
4 & 5 The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone - The angels impersonated statues (goes without saying)
6 The Vampires of Venice - Impersonated humans
7 Amy's Choice - The 2 worlds were being impersonated
8 & 9 The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood - ? Peace was impersonated ?
10 Vincent and the Doctor - The creature couldn't be seen...
11 The Lodger - The "TARDIS" was impersonating the top of the house, impersonating a human, The Doc was impersonating a human too
12 & 13 The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang - River impersonated Cleo, Autons as Romans, TARDIS a sun...
Like I say, just a quick fire off of ideas to show that line of thought, even if it wasn't what you meant
Instead of the word 'Impersonating', perhaps the word 'Deception' is more fitting. But regardless you may have something there
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Oh, yeah and the corner of the eye stuff, like the door Amy couldn't see.
I still want to know why sometimes there was a light at the top of Amys stairs in her house (the loft area)
So, yeah, a lot of deception, but is it more than normal?
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I haven't seen today's episode just yet... But I was thinking (I do that sometimes...) What if the arc has something to do with time paradoxes? Like think, the Space and Time specials, it was kind of paradoxy -them landing inside the TARDIS and helping themselves and all that, they even interacted with each other, which I thought it was a nono. Anyway, now we got the Old Doctor having the Young Doctor do something, but he isn't supposed to know what the Old Doctor wants... Or that's what River tells the others... And then The Silents tell Amy he must know... So maybe the Arc IS about creating a Paradox itself, or something of the sort... IDK, I might be wrong, but it's just an idea... If not, why else would the Doctor risk it, right? Besides, and do not kill me for this, but the Silent seem very similar to Oods, what if they aren't mean mean... I know they killed the poor lady in the restroom, but still... What if they aren't THAT evil? Also, last year I got the idea (don't ask me how or why or when cuz I don't remember) that Omega was gonna come back... So maybe the Doctor has to face something from the old series, but for that needs to retrace his steps or something. Meh...
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Bear with me for a minute, folks. I personally think this Series [And Series 5] are all based on little Amelia's dreams. Yet, at the same time, Amy and Amelia are different people. Not sure why? Good. Keep reading on.
Amelia Pond has the Universe pouring into her head through the Crack in her bedroom wall; meaning her mind is impossibly strong and scarily capable of immense things.
I'm trying to get to the point that Amelia is imagining what her life and adventures with the Doctor COULD be like when the Raggedy Doctor returns yet, at the same time, Amelia has created her older self. Literally, her older self is living aswell as her younger self.
In
'The Eleventh Hour'
, we see Amelia [Dressed to go!] sitting on her suitcase; waiting for her Raggedy Doctor to return. She clearly hears the TARDIS and she smiles; taking a deep breath.
But we already know that Amelia has a impossibly strong mind due to the crack. So, how do we not know that Amelia's Pray for help didn't bring the TARDIS to her? It's a hell of a coincidence if Amelia didn't bring him.
In
'The Beast Below',
Amy says 'Never could resist a 'Keep Out!' sign!'. This is a certain nod to Amy's Childhood.
'Victory of the Daleks'
is interesting. Amy claims to not know of the Daleks. Yes? Then, isn't it possible the reason she doesn't know of the Daleks is that, due to being in the 90's, the Dalek Invasion of Earth 2008 hadn't happened yet. Therefore, she wouldn't know them.
'Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone'
is actually quite helpful in this theory. River Song, on reading the book of Angels, reads "What if, one day, our dreams could desert us and live their own life?" or something similar. Surely, this is suggesting Amelia's dreams could, in a timey-wimey way, be reality?
'Amy's Choice'
is an episode of firsts. The Dream Lord seems fascinated by Amy. He KNOWS there's something special about her. Yet, so does the Doctor. It's why the Dream Lord kept taunting the Doctor and seperating Amy.
In
'The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood'
, we see a near-future version of Amy and Rory waving to our present Couple; 'Visiting past adventures' as the Doctor put it. Yet, at the end of
'Cold Blood'
we no longer see Mr Williams. Why? Because Amelia's mind knows, deep down, that Rory was sucked into the Crack. Since her mind is influenced by the Crack, something has 'saved' Rory in her subconcious for later.
'The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang'
It's odd, isn't it, that the Doctor found it entirely safe and entirely possible that Amelia and Amy could talk, touch and see each other without any side effects.
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In regards to your last point, it has been addressed I believe, as many Paradoxical things and normalised practices were thrown out of the window, it is like Mickey touching Ricky, it is an alternate universe created, a different timeline, therefore, they may seem the same, but they aren't the same person...
As for the rest, it is possible, especially with that River quote I don't really remember, but potentially quite extreme... There is a lot of talk that they are different people and I haven't really vexed my mind to work out why, tbh this series I haven't stressed like normal, too much hasn't been revealed and there are too many possibilities
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You've taken some huge leaps of logic with some of those things. Your comment about Amy praying makes sense, but when she was sitting on her suitcase waiting, she wasn't praying. Moffat has also stated that that was just meant to be Amy's dream. He could be lying, but at the moment there is no reason to think otherwise.
In the Beast Below, I would say that comment was just a throwaway line, especially seeing as how we never see Amelia, or Amy again if I remember rightly, ignoring a keep out sign.
VOTD wasn't set in the 90s. I know you don't mean that actual war part, but the 'Amy' that the Doctor is travelling with is from 2010. June 25th to be exact. Amelia, while a child in the 90's wouldnt have known about the Daleks in 2008, but that was never brought up.
TOA/FAS is a good one, and probably the most likely of your theories, but it could be applied to anyone, not just Amy/Amelia
Amy's Choice, your right, does imply that the Dream Lord knows something special about her, but its far more likely to be the stuff about the cracks, as that is the big reveal that the Doctor was working up to all series.
In Cold Blood, the reason that Rory was no longer in the field waving is because he had essentially been removed from history. The Doctor points out though that nobody is ever really gone and traces are left, like the ring, and Amy held a subconcious memory of him due to the crack pouring through her head for so long.
As for TPO/TBB the less said about the BLE the better, as that changes every time it comes in to play on the show. When pressed though, Moff said it was ok because they were at the centre of it all, but I think thats just his excuse for not knowing how to write around it, but needing both characters there
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