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« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2011, 03:32:56 pm »

Hey there, this is all a bit new to me, but it seems glaringly obvious that there is a direct link between the flesh and their human counterparts right up until the power surge. The humans are directly in control of them "like a forklift truck". When Amy's ganger is "decommissioned" by the Doctor the link is severed and she goes back to her real body, hence the sudden awakening and the previous visions of the eye-patch woman. Amy's mind has been in the ganger all along so she will still have all those memories, because her mind was there even if her body wasn't.
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« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2011, 03:40:54 pm »

Nicely put. That would be essentially how I see it too  Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2011, 01:34:29 am »

Buzzer certainly knew what had happened to his Ganger at the start of the first ep - not just that he'd died but that it had been caused by Jen taking a swing at him. After the connection was severed though it was different - they could only make predictions or even guesses based on previous shared experience.

Buzzer actually said that he'd watched the video of what happened to his ganger.

In the corridor or later on? I've just watched the corridor scene again & the only thing he mentions having seen are holo ads about claiming compensation.

Ah, that's possible.  I'll have to check on rewatching.
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2011, 09:33:13 am »

Hey there, this is all a bit new to me, but it seems glaringly obvious that there is a direct link between the flesh and their human counterparts right up until the power surge. The humans are directly in control of them "like a forklift truck". When Amy's ganger is "decommissioned" by the Doctor the link is severed and she goes back to her real body, hence the sudden awakening and the previous visions of the eye-patch woman. Amy's mind has been in the ganger all along so she will still have all those memories, because her mind was there even if her body wasn't.

Exactly, so sick of a wide variety of people saying this episode was bad because the Doctor killed a Ganger after saying how sacred they are. The replica Amy was not a proper Ganger as the flesh was only being kept active from the connection to Amy. Without that connection, it reverted back to the flesh. What was the Doctor meant to do, never break the link and leave the (pregnant) Amy to her fate?
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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2011, 04:12:57 pm »

I agree with the above.  I think it was even stated in one of the episodes that they get into the harness and sort of 'drive' the ganger and then when something happens to the ganger and it dies or whatever, the link is severed and the person in the harness wakes up.   
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2011, 04:43:00 pm »

As sacred as Gangers are, the Ganger Amy had to be decommisioned. The real Amy was in danger, lying pregnant somewhere and he feels responsible for her not just because it was travelling with him that put her in danger (nothing new there), but because he has her husband on board, and if anything happened to her the Doctor would be the first person Rory blamed. And who knows what Rory would have done to punish the Doctor.

So as sacred as Gangers/the Flesh are, fake Amy had to be sacrificed so that the real Amy could be awake to give birth, and the Doctor and Rory could save her
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