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Poll: Rate & Review The Mind Robber

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Question: Rate the story
5/5 - Absolutely amazing - 9 (64.3%)
4/5 - Really Good - 3 (21.4%)
3/5 - Not bad, not great - 1 (7.1%)
2/5 - Not impressed - 1 (7.1%)
1/5 - Shockingly bad - 0 (0%)
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2011, 06:24:18 pm »

5 from me. One of the highlights of the era in my opinion and a great story
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 06:35:41 pm »

I was holding off giving a rating till I'd done the rewatch, but as expected it's a 5.  There are one or two details that might take 0.1 off, but certainly not a full point.  It's an awesome story.
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 12:38:24 pm »

Right, now I have finished it all I am happy to give it 5/5. It was a totally entertaining and fun story, completely different from any other DW story I have seen. It was a bit of a risky story but the risk paid off and it is a great watch.
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2011, 02:25:40 pm »

Well it's the first Classic story I've ever seen and, maybe it's the age of it but I wasn't overly impressed. I'll still keep up with TIQ though.

I found the companions really annoying.

2/5

Kind of unrelated to this story, but as a general point of interest - I keep reading about some stories being lost - how exactly were they lost?
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2011, 02:42:07 pm »

This might explain it better than I could  Smiley

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_missing_episodes
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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2011, 02:42:57 pm »

Back in the day before digital storage, everything was pretty much kept on tape. Over the years the BBC built up a huge amount of shows so in order to save space and money, many shows were junked or wiped. They were known to literally throw tv shows into the skip because back then there was no home video and reruns weren't so popular so there was little reason to keep them. Ones that weren't junked were sometimes wiped and re-recorded on with other shows. Lots have been found in various places around the world from when the BBC sold the show overseas and snippets of episodes survive even if the whole episode is lost because editors in other countries often cut the episodes for length or because it was too violent etc. There are 108 episodes missing (of around 750) all from the first two Doctors. Some Third Doctor stories were lost but now all are found, though some are only in black and white.

Loads and loads of info HERE if you fancy some extra reading Tongue
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« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2011, 02:43:22 pm »

Stop stealing my thunder, PRG!!! Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2011, 02:44:37 pm »

Sorry  Tongue
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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2011, 05:40:41 pm »

I've watched an episode a night as a little reward for working and what a treat its been. Patrick Troughton is just incredible.
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2011, 07:25:43 pm »

Ooh interesting, thank you Smiley Such a shame so much has been lost!!
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2011, 03:51:42 pm »

When you think of how much has been found, and how much more could have been junked if someone hadn't have stepped in, it's a wonder we have anything from the first ten years of the show
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2011, 09:06:14 pm »

Although the lost Doctor Whos are what I care about most, the most extradordinary junking decision was the 1963 BBC play Madhouse on Castle Street which, among other things, featured the first TV appearance anywhere in the world by Bob Dylan.  In the late 60s, at a time when Dylan was one of the biggest things on the planet, the Beeb decided that wasn't worth keeping.
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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2011, 08:27:53 am »

Somehow, I'm missed the start of this, but I have a few days to catch up, before the 2nd episode is posted.
I'll start watching the Mind Robber today, as I already have EVERY episode from the last 48 years on my PC's hard-drive, this gives me an excuse to watch the ones I haven't watched yet.

I actually like some of the reconstructions, for example, The Invasion (1969, Troughton) has been reconstructed twice, but the BBC DVD has a great animated reconstruction, where the characters look enough like the real thing for the viewer to almost forget it's animated.
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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2011, 01:59:52 pm »

How can you have every episode when so many are missing and many have never been made available yet?
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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2011, 03:02:10 pm »

I think Jamdog means including reconstructions, where that's all that's available.  I have that too, although one or two episodes are faulty and are effectively only the soundtrack.
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2011, 11:17:57 am »

I think Jamdog means including reconstructions, where that's all that's available.  I have that too, although one or two episodes are faulty and are effectively only the soundtrack.
Yep, exactly.
Some of the 'reconstructed' episodes are pretty poor quality, but as I understand it, when the BBC destroyed the episodes, the audio tracks were kept separate to the video, and so only the video was destroyed, and all the audio tracks survived. 

All of the reconstructed episodes therefore use the original episode soundtrack, but the video varies.  As I posted above, The Invasion (the BBC DVD) has 2 animated episodes, which are actually quite good quality, and certainly watchable.  They are even done in black and white to match the other episodes.  Other stories have been reconstructed using production stills, so you see a single, often fuzzy picture every 10 seconds or so.  These can be quite difficult to watch.

I am always on the lookout for new reconstructions, such as the Doctor in the Tardis Blog announced a couple of weeks ago that the 1st Doctor's The Reign of Terror is getting an animated reconstruction.

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2011, 03:22:32 pm »

By far the best non-animated reconstruction is Marco Polo, which uses high-quality colour stills from the studio and keeps the images and captions changing enough to follow the story easily.  There's a 30-minute digest version as an extra on the Edge of Destruction DVD, but the whole thing's available to download.
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« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2011, 12:17:45 pm »

I've only seen a couple of recons, mainly Dalek stuff and a few others, but the ones I saw were great. I didn't find them particularly distracting.
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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2011, 10:11:32 pm »

Right I'm finally caught up with this. Right.... OK you have to bear in mind I'm pretty tired and was multitasking trying to write my personal statement at the same time as watching, but... I think I'm going to give it a 3.

Good job it wasn't slightly later that I watched it or I would be having nightmares with all that screaming at the start!! (Not joking there!) But erm, yeah I liked it, got a bit lost and kinda zoned out towards the end, but from what I've seen, I'm liking the classic stuff now, and this is possibly one of the best ones out of the ones I've actually seen  Smiley Smiley
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