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« on: August 20, 2013, 06:02:49 pm » |
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The Time Warrior is one of the few historical stories where it's almost impossible to pin down when it's supposed to be set, due to both the vagueness of what's said and the inconsistent historical elements. The Doctor says it's the early years of the middle ages, by which he probably means soon after the Norman Conquest (not a very accurate description, but we'll let that go) and that's backed up by the constant references to Normans (the identification of the nobility specifically as Norman only lasted a couple of generations) and the fact that no-one has surnames, which were starting to become common by the mid-12th century.
On the other hand, the castle architecture belong to a much later period, as does the expert longbowman (th English longbow didn't really come into its own till the 14th century). There's a vague reference to Edward's retainers having been taken by the king for his wars, which doesn't really narrow it down much.
I'd say the most likely time for it (ignoring the anachronisms) would be during the Anarchy (1135-1154) which would explain why Irongron's been able to seize a castle with no-one doing anything about it (though actually, Irongron and Bloodaxe sound more like Viking nicknames than anything) but then Edward and his neighbours would have been likely to have taken sides in the civil war between Stephen and Matilda.
I think all that can really be said is that it's sometime after the Norman Conquest, and sometime before the invention of gunpowder.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 10:28:34 am » |
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Wikipedia (not the most reliable, I know) pin it down to the 13th century, but don't say why. I think possibly it says so in the novelisation, but I haven't read it so I can't be certain.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 12:26:45 pm » |
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Well, in the 13th century certainly no-one would have been talking about Normans, and Edward, at least, would have had a surname, not just "of Wessex".
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 08:31:03 pm » |
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Wikipedia (not the most reliable, I know) pin it down to the 13th century, but don't say why. I think possibly it says so in the novelisation, but I haven't read it so I can't be certain.
I don't have it to hand, but I actually think it says 12th in the book. |
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 11:31:19 am » |
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I'd go with whatever it says in the novel, though there is bound to be other tie-in books, like the annuals or whatever, that could probably pin it down.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2013, 11:19:22 am » |
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Wikipedia (not the most reliable, I know) pin it down to the 13th century, but don't say why. I think possibly it says so in the novelisation, but I haven't read it so I can't be certain.
Yep, that's the date given in the novel. |
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2013, 02:47:27 pm » |
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Wikipedia (not the most reliable, I know) pin it down to the 13th century, but don't say why. I think possibly it says so in the novelisation, but I haven't read it so I can't be certain.
Yep, that's the date given in the novel. Still doesn't make a lot of sense  |
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